2024 Moto Guzzi V85TT First Ride Review
We twist the throttle on Guzzi’s mid-sized ADV now with more power and versatility.
When Moto Guzzi unveiled the V85TT concept bike at EICMA in 2017, the machine turned heads with its seamless blend of retro-style and splash of modern-scrambler. Interest for the air-cooled, shaft-driven model has continued since its official launch two years later, making it a top seller for Moto Guzzi and a fan favorite of those looking for something a little different than the status quo.
After undergoing some refinements in 2021, Moto Guzzi has given the V85TT another overhaul for the new year with changes that include more power and low-end torque, redesigned aerodynamics, upgraded electronics, improved throttle response, and more. Plus, for 2024 the platform comes in three different flavors with the addition of the cast-wheeled Strada which joins the standard V85TT and the saddlebag-equipped V85TT Travel. Let’s dive in for a closer look!
What You Get
At the heart of all three models is the iconic sideways-mounted 853cc air/oil-cooled V-Twin. The Euro 5+ motor gets significant updates that, aside from meeting stricter emissions regulations, have brought about some performance-boosting engineering.
For instance, the 8-valve V85TT block now claims 80 horsepower, up from last year’s 76. The engine produces that power now with smoother delivery down low and to the redline, thanks to variable valve timing (VVT) via a mechanically driven and controlled camshaft timing mechanism.
With Moto Guzzi’s VVT system, six ball bearings adjust the camshaft’s timing parameters. The bearings either advance or delay the timing and overlap based on engine speed and the centrifugal forces of the ball bearings. No computer is needed for the actual timing changes. A timing position sensor sends signals back to the ECU for the smoothest results when you crack or close the throttle.
This VVT upgrade brings on 90% of the torque at just 3,500 rpm and represents a boost of 5 to 10% more torque in the 3,000 to 4,500 rpm range. The V85TT continues building power all the way to 7,750 rpm, just shy of its 8,000 rpm redline.
On the other end of the spectrum, the V85 motor gets two knock sensors, one per cylinder. These allow it to have precise, self-adjusting ignition timing, and a third lambda sensor (O2 sensor) ensures fuel mixtures are suitable for atmospheric conditions such as ambient air temp and elevation. The results of the engine upgrades were noticed by fellow journalists who had ridden the previous model, and the benefits were described as a smoother, more responsive motor that is felt more than what’s measured on the dyno sheet.
The suspension remains essentially the same. With 170mm (6.7 inches) of travel front and rear across all three variants, the V85TT is still a road-biased adventure bike. Mechanical preload and rebound are still adjustable on both ends of the motorcycle. However, the V85TT and TT Travel models receive a hand crank preload adjuster on the rear shock to enable tool-free adjustments.
Moto Guzzi has focused much of its attention on improving wind protection using computational wind tunnels. Without losing any of the MG flair and styling cues, air pressure on the rider has been reduced by a calculated 37% over the outgoing V85TT with its updated five-position adjustable windscreen and other small touches. The TT Travel also comes with a manually-adjustable windscreen. It’s also larger and complemented by air deflectors on the sides of the headlights. The taller screen is said to reduce air pressure on the rider’s helmet by 50% over the standard V85TT’s.
To improve intuitive access to all functions, the electric-switch cubes have been completely redesigned on the handlebars, plus a new five-inch TFT display makes it easier to visualize all trip parameters. The standard TT has four standard rider modes: Road, Sport, Rain, and Off-road. The TC and ABS can be set up for off-road or shut-off completely, and the throttle response can be adjusted. In addition to these modes, the Travel model comes with a fifth custom mode, which is optional on the standard and Strada. All models in the V85 range are also equipped with Cruise Control, with a single button to activate it and to increase or decrease the set speed.
The ABS braking setup consists of dual 320mm discs paired with newly designed Brembo radial-mount monobloc calipers featuring 4 opposed pistons connected to the master cylinder via steel braided lines. At the rear is a 2-piston floating caliper with a 260 mm disc.
The 6-axis IMU is a new addition to the TT and TT Travel, giving them cornering ABS and TC — a nice safety feature on any street-going motorcycle. Curiously, the Strada does not come with the IMU standard, but Moto Guzzi does offer the IMU as an option.
On-Road Experience
On several occasions I’ve been asked by friends if I’ve ever ridden a V85TT, and if I liked it or would recommend it. Well, five years after its official launch, I finally got a chance to try one out. The V85 TT’s initial start-up consists of a whine from the starter and gears only audible for a split second, then it becomes overpowered by the gentle rumble of the single overhead cam two-valve 850 as it shakes the bike to the side. I could feel the torque of the V-twin twisting the bike between my legs as the engine revved, which incited a grin of satisfaction.
That grin quickly left my face though as I stepped on the gear shifter to go from neutral to first, which elicited a loud-ish clunk. Later, I started the bike with the clutch lever pulled in and first already engaged to avoid a public display of mechanical noises. Moto Guzzi enthusiasts enjoy the feel of their charming Italian beasts, but I’m a little uncomfortable making that much noise outside of a coffee house.
Feeling and hearing the mechanical symphony as I shifted through the gears with the V85’s dry clutch was charming as we hustled around the twisty roads on the southern coast of Spain. There is more noise and “feeling” than I’m used to, but a few fellow journalists who’ve ridden them for years assured me this is just how Moto Guzzi builds them. Mating a shaft drive to the air-cooled lump also gives some different feedback that took some getting used to.
The V85’s shaft drive rewards riders who use the rear brakes to trail brake into and through turns. I’m a big fan of trail braking the front on the road, but the change to the rear took some time to adapt to and enjoy. Worth noting, the V85 is the only middleweight on the market with a low-maintenance shaft drive.
The suspension is firm front and back but never harsh. The MG feels like it carries its weight well and drives it through both tires in turns, providing excellent grip and letting the handling feel neutral on the initial turn-in. The V85 never felt overwhelmed, even though I’m “thicker” than most Italian test pilots at 240 pounds. This is a true testament to a simple suspension setup working well with properly damped valving and reasonable performance expectations from the rider.
Thirty-seven percent better wind protection is a significant claim for the V85 TT over the outgoing 2023 model, but the numbers don’t lie. Cruising on the TT Travel with a taller screen and handguards feels like being in an “air-deflecting bubble.” The plastic handguards come stock on the TT and TT Travel, and can be added to the Strada optionally. The chilly winter weather would have been harder to deal with if not for the effective wind protection.
Cruising (as one does on a Moto Guzzi) down a short section of highway, I felt cool. Riding an air-cooled Italian motorcycle towards the coast of the Alboran Sea will be one of those surreal moments for me. It’s also when the V85 clicked the most with me. The enjoyment that the V-twin brings, with its charm and character, sets the MG apart.
The combination of reduced air pressure, near-perfect engine tuning, Brembo monoblock calipers, and variable valve timing all came together, all at once, as we hummed along at highway speeds. This motorcycle is lovely going down the road at sensible speeds. Taking in the sights and feelings of the world around me, I couldn’t help but feel nostalgically connected to the Moto Guzzi brand.
Perfect weather, a Moto Guzzi on twisty tarmac in Spain, and my impending 40th birthday might have contributed to this moment of Zen and motorcycling, and I couldn’t help but wonder if MG enthusiasts feel it all the time.
Should you opt for the V85TT Travel, you’ll get the most optimized wind protection as stated above, but you’ll also get a total of 64.5 liters of storage space in the panniers that come along with the Bronzo Deserto (flat sand/mud) paint scheme. Having spent time on the TT Travel and bagless TT, the weight added by the saddlebags felt unnoticeable from the “driver” seat. From a touring aspect, the Travel model package also comes with heated grips and a heated seat. From a price perspective, if you factor in the customizable ride mode, air deflectors, an XL windscreen, and heated equipment, along with the boxes. The $1,400 premium you pay for the TT Travel is a good deal and requires fewer accessories to install later.
Lastly, the ergonomics are sweet for road riding on an air-cooled Moto Guzzi. It has a commanding position with classically-placed handlebars. The seat isn’t too tall at 32.7 inches, and the six-gallon gas tank sits between the knees but also cups them. The seat-to-footpeg distance is OK for 120-mile days, but it might be a little tight for me at 6’2″ tall.
Touring longer than 120 miles on an air-cooled V-twin is different from where I’d want to start a road trip usually, but the V85 TT just makes it feel within reach and reason, all the way out to 400 memorable miles a day. In the same way, I’d love to have a V85 for coffee shop runs on the weekends or as an urban “get around” machine. It takes itself seriously, but swinging a leg over it, taking it for a cruise, street parking it at the local moto hangout also makes sense for this versatile package.
Off Road Experience
To be fully transparent, 99.7% of our test day was spent on the road with the V85s. The next day, our mission was to test the all-new Moto Guzzi Stelvio. That doesn’t mean I completely ignored the off-road possibilities of the V85 TT and TT Travel during our test, though. If you want a more in-depth perspective on the off-road capability, you can check out our review of the 2020 V85 TT Travel, which is essentially unchanged in the chassis.
Engine characteristics are important to me off-road. The way a bike feels… is it a long stroke, a high torque boat motor like my Triumph Scrambler 1200xe, or an oversquare “brap happy” short stroke like the Honda Transalp? Well, the most noticeable character trait of V85 is the VVT.
Executing slow-speed turnarounds and some off-road technical maneuvers, the V85, of course, shows some limitations with its road-oriented suspension. Still, its smooth throttle actuation and improved low-end torque really balance the overall experience. The ability to entirely shut off the ABS makes steep downhill descents require less “pucker factor.”
The ergonomics for off-road use will come down to the rider and their preference, as the bars are a little low for my 6’2″ frame. But the rubber-covers for the footpegs can be removed and the adjustable windscreen moves out of the way in the low position for the trickier parts of the trail. Making a bike your own with bar risers or changing seat heights is part of motorcycle ownership, and Moto Guzzi enthusiasts know that more than most brand loyalists.
Bottom Line
Arguably, no one will ever ‘talk’ someone into buying or not buying a Moto Guzzi. It’s almost as if they’ve made up their mind before reading a review, let alone listening to anyone’s advice. Are there better bikes out there at this price range? Define better.
With a starting $12,190 MSRP for the standard model and 32.7” seat height, the V85TT closes the gap toward an approachable middleweight. It comes in well below the somewhat shockingly-high price tags and seat heights of other 850cc+ Euro middleweights like the Tiger 900 Rally Pro or Ducati Desert X.
Instead, the V85 TT’s most significant competitors will be more “budget middleweight” bikes like the Honda Transalp or the cast-wheeled Triumph Tiger 850 Sport. In a way, the V85TT splits the middle ground between these two bikes.
The Transalp has the upper hand for off-road in wheelset size at 21/18 front and rear and has an extra 1.5 inches of suspension travel. It has tube-type wheels, and it is pretty bare-boned. The Triumph Tiger 850 Sport has only a little more suspension travel, costs more, and has cast 19/17 wheels leaning towards a sport-touring feel.
Curiously in the Middle of the two, the Moto Guzzi V85 TT sits with its 19/17 tubeless spoked wheels, taught suspension, approachable seat height and touring amenities
Some other competition might be found on the lower end of the price scale. The Ducati Desert Sled is the ideal show down here, as it’s 800cc, air-cooled, and Italian. Similarly, the Triumph Street Scrambler is 900cc of British (mostly) air-cooled fury. The choice between those two bikes comes down to the customer as neither of these bikes stand out from each other in any meaningful way.
The V85TT, on the other hand, does outdo the Duck and the Triumph in a few ways. The V85’s motor, dash, rider modes, aerodynamics, fuel capacity, shaft drive, suspension, touring amenities, and road manners all score higher than its euro counterparts.
While still more at home on the tarmac than a technical trail, the Moto Guzzi V85TT remains a strong contender for riders looking for a distinctive mid-size adventure bike that exudes loads of character and charm. The V85 not only stands out as the only sub-1000cc Adventure bike with a shaft drive but its aesthetics undeniably contribute to its overall allure. While there may be varying opinions on color choices, the bike’s design seems to consistently inspire praise from fellow riders and its unique character and feel makes it a motorcycle that leaves a lasting impression.
Moto Guzzi V85 Range Specs
ENGINE TYPE: | Transverse 90° V twin, two valves per cylinder (titanium intake). |
COOLING: | Air |
DISPLACEMENT: | 853 cc |
BORE AND STROKE: | 84 x 77 mm |
COMPRESSION RATIO: | 10.5: 1 |
MAXIMUM POWER: | 80 HP (58.8 kW) at 7,750 rpm |
TORQUE: | 61.2 ft-lbs (83 Nm) at 5,100 rpm |
FUEL: | Electronic fuel injection; Ø 52 mm single throttle body, Ride-by-Wire |
FUEL TANK CAPACITY: | 23 liters (including 5 liter reserve) |
HOMOLOGATION: | Euro 5+ |
FUEL CONSUMPTION (WMTC CYCLE): | 4.9 l/100 km |
CO2 EMISSIONS (WMTC CYCLE): | 119 g/km |
CLUTCH: | Dry single disc |
GEARS: | 6-speed gearbox |
GEAR RATIO VALUES: | 1st 16/39 = 1: 2.437 2nd 18/32 = 1: 1.778 3rd 21/28 = 1: 1.333 4th 24/26 = 1: 1.083 5th 25/24 = 1: 0.960 6th 27/24 = 1: 0.889 |
FRAME: | Tubular high-strength steel frame |
FRONT SUSPENSION: | Hydraulic upside-down telescopic fork, Ø 41 mm, adjustable spring preload and rebound hydraulics |
FRONT WHEEL TRAVEL: | 170 mm |
REAR SUSPENSION: | Double-sided swingarm in box-type aluminium with a single shock on the right side, with adjustable spring (controlled via a knob on the V85 TT and V85 TT Travel) preload and hydraulic rebound |
REAR WHEEL TRAVEL: | 170 mm |
FRONT BRAKE: | Double 320 mm stainless steel floating discs, Brembo radial-mounted callipers with 4 opposed pistons. |
REAR BRAKE: | Ø 260 mm stainless steel disc, floating caliper with 2 pistons |
WHEELS: | Spoked (V85 Strada: with aluminum alloy spokes) |
FRONT RIM: | Cross-spoke tubeless 2.50” x 19” |
REAR RIM: | Cross-spoke tubeless 4.25” x 17” |
FRONT TYRE: | Tubeless 110/80 – R19” |
REAR TYRE: | Tubeless 150/70 – R17” |
A/C GENERATOR: | 430 W |
SYSTEM VOLTAGE: | 12 V |
BATTERY: | 12 V – 12 Ah |
SEAT HEIGHT: | 830 mm |
DRY WEIGHT: | 209 kg (V85 Strada: 205 kg; V85 TT Travel: 211 kg) |
KERB WEIGHT (90% FUELED): | 230 kg (V85 Strada: 226 kg; V85 TT Travel: 243 kg) |
Gear We Used
Backpack: Alpinestars Techdura Tactical Pack
Helmet: Alpinestars SM10 Flood
Boots: Alpinestars Tech 7
Jacket: Alpinestars Venture XT
Pants: Alpinestars Venture XT Over-the-Boot
Gloves: Alpinestars Full Bore XT
Photos by Alberto Cervetti
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Clutch engagement? Throttle response? Braking feel? Heat on the legs?
My V Strom has much higher heat on the legs than my V7….not an issue with Moto Guzzi.
The clutch does engage yes, it’s unremarkable, works as it should. Throttle response we talk about in the article, but it’s smooth thanks to the engine management and knock sensors. The engine puts no exes heat on the rider.
If Moto Guzzi offered a true ADV version of the V85TT with a 21″ front wheel and a bit more suspension travel, I would be very tempted to get one.
A rally spec one is so close, and would be fun, except sometimes shaft drives don’t like massive suspension travel
I agree. I’ve customized my V85 with Andreani fork cartridges and Wilbers rear shock, which add 30mm of travel for a total of 200mm. Purchased through Viejos Pistones in Spain. Suspension is excellent and really enhances the off-road capabilities of this unique bike. There is nothing quite like the V85, so I don’t mind spending the money to make it the bike I want it to be.
That red/white with V85 on the tank…
Blends in when you hit a chicken on a gravel road
This or the V100 Stelvio:
1) Independent of the price.
2) Dependent of the price.
This is for mostly road riding. Very light, if any off-road riding.
Any other insight you might have on other bikes you’d consider.
As an owner of a 2020 TT for me the new larger TFT screen is a big improvement and the new switch gear. But not enough to trade mine in.
The heated seat on the Travel trim is enough to get me thinking about trading up from my ‘21 Travel. But that new screen doesn’t seem to have the “Made in Mandello del Lario” on it anymore, so maybe not.
I’ve been riding the Guzzi’s for a few years (I’m 64) and you’re right, it boils down to personal preference for the bikes feel, rather than statistics.
I like the relaxed nature of the Guzzi’s, although my Mk4 Le Mans LE is not in any way shape or form relaxed, it is the exception.
The ride is intuitive and at normal speeds the bike just insinuates itself through the corners without the rider having to expend much thinking effort.
The motors excel at pulling the bike away in any gear at almost any rev range.
My 750’s party trick is to idle along a flat road in 1st, 2nd and then 3rd gear and pull away without complaint. I rarely use a lower gear than 4th once moving in the city.
Character is hard to define but you’ll know it when you experience it.
Yes the gears are clunky, and that aspect of the Guzzi does not endear it to me, but after a minute or two all is forgiven.
240 lbs? Not really prime racing shape, Steve, did you give it up?
You gotta be 2 something to do something, been racing every weekend and training 3/4 days a week, I’m just a thick sasquatch turning laps. Probably 235 now, but it’s size my body wants to be, maybe I’ll break 220 again but that would require me to give up on beer, which I would do if I didn’t love it so much